Eddie
We had the same in the Studebaker club,but now we have one united club
"The Studebaker Drivers Club"
We also have "The Antique Studebaker Club which is for prewar cars but
the two clubs get along fine.
The Avanti club is very specialized in that car only ,both Studebaker
and later models.
At one time a group of members wanted to commercialize the club with
paid officers and headquarters etc.
The national club was going to run the yearly meets and had their
travel agents etc.
Luckily one of our earlier Presidents (George Krem) got reelected and
put a stop to this takeover.
We have a wonderful club now! No infighting no assholes!
I love the AMC's also.
Robert Kapteyn

On Jul 25, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Eddie Stakes wrote:

> Speaking on what you mention below......the city of Houston offers
> only one parade prmit on certain day, there are two fighting parade
> groups that 'honor' Martin Luther King. They steal each others
> bands, sponsors, and supporters year after year, and of course due
> to the fighting between two groups that are 'supposed' to honor
> King, few people attend, you can look at the clips on tv and there
> is more police standing atound watching floats and bands than
> attendees. So I see your point below. Unfortunately nothing has
> changed out there in amc world thru the decades, I remember joining
> AMC Squirrel Clubs, AMO and NAMDRA back in 1980s and was mud
> tossing, name calling, animosity, trying to steal each others
> members, vendors and what not. Some of it is about money, sometimes
> prestige, other times bragging rights I guess.
>
> There is a good side to AMC out there you know, individuals who make
> a difference and drive their cars, race, show, and sometimes help
> out another AMCer in need, those are the real people who keep hobby
> alive and going thankfully.
>
> Side issue is few people gave a crap about the Kenosha
> Transportation museum, except I guess AMC, Rambler and Nash people,
> politicians and people who could have made a difference sort of said
> 'eh ok, we will help' and while it got built, was about as big as
> 7-11 and didn't get the big money to make large site. Even Kenoshans
> I still communicate with tell me that Kenosha is nothing more than
> suburb of Milwaukee or Chicago, the new money in there only care
> about how close Starbucks is and when next race is at dog track, not
> concerned with Kenosha history like AMC or Snap On. You can buy some
> neat little Nash and Rambler things from Kenosha History Center
>
> http://www.kenoshahistorycenter.org/FORMgallery1.htm
>
> However a few years ago it was mentioned they might build a
> Wisconsin Civil War museum and politicians came out of all the rocks
> to support it, pork flying everywhere! No shoratge of $$$ there. I
> don't believe the Kenosha Transportation Museum even got built, I
> know it was supposed to be located in a old water treatment plant
> (thanks, I love sewers) but don't think it opened but may be wrong.
> However you can go look at Islam curtural stuff:
>
> http://www.kenosha.org/museum/
>
> let me travel 1000 miles for that. Speaking of car clubs, there used
> to be several Corvette car clubs here in 1980s/90s, they didn't like
> each other and never co hosted meets, or attended each others
> events, so not unique to AMC......
>
>
> Eddie Stakes
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@planethoustonamx.com
> www.planethoustonamx.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Atkins
> To: BaadAssGremlins@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 5:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: amc 'stuff that didn't
> work' (was: mel gibson's gremlin) long!
>
>
>
>
> It is not only AMC Eddie it is everything. In the Louisville
> area we have a populations of less than a million people. We have
> two Mustang clubs, three Corvette clubs. One of the largest clubs in
> the city that had been together over twenty years broke up do to
> infighting. One club broke up into two different clubs do to
> fighting who controlled the sound equipment. We even had a chapter
> of AMO here at one time but it is long gone. It is not only car
> clubs I have found in my life time that the biggest fights are in
> churches. That is why I don't belong to any of them except AMO and I
> really don't count that. I have enough crap in my life that I have
> to put up with I don't want to join something to get more crap.
> Terry
>
>
>
> From: Eddie Stakes
> Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: amc 'stuff that didn't work' (was:
> mel gibson's gremlin) long!
> To: BaadAssGremlins@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 3:43 PM
>
> It sort of fell off map like many AMC "big" ideas out there. The
> AMC landscape is littered with good ideas you know: AMC Unity
> Council, AMC Council of Clubs, AMC Magazine (this one baffled me and
> still does, the guy spent $10,000 of his own money to do glossy
> magazine, everyone said 'oooh, count me in' or 'sign me up!' and few
> did, then he had display at biggest AMC event in history in Kenosha,
> he needed to sign up 250 subscribers to make magazine float. He had
> magazines laying out, people walk by booth, pick one up and when he
> would say $2, they gently put it back down in ultimate fit of
> Rambler Mentality, needless to say guy went back to NY, closed up
> shop and took major loss.) Yikes. Don't forget a 'All AMC Meet' with
> all the clubs co-operating together on same field, this was tried a
> few times, but ended up being like little roped off areas, so had to
> choose your legion to Zod with who you went with, so if you went
> with one club to have your car
> judged, you pissed off other clubs for instance. Sort of like
> having different restrooms for different peoples in 1940s/50s,
> everyone has same color doo but have to go to different room. It was
> like this unfortunately and created some ill will at what was
> supposed to be largest AMC get together in history.
>
> A case could be made for Mitchell's old AMCWC, at one time really
> big before imploded due to all the darned vendors, businesses,
> chapters and individuals leaving, so guess that falls into 'amc
> stuff that didn't work' class. Or failures. Or going to the dark
> side without light sabre, there is whole file on my site dedicated
> to that cesspool failing:
>
> http://www.planetho ustonamx. com/stuff/ good_riddance_ amcwc.htm
>
> I'm sure some old soviet toothless ladies in Siberia are having
> fond memories about Stalin too. Oh, he was dreamy with that big
> mustache.... ..sure he only killed 20 million people but he looked
> so nice in that overcoat!
>
> http://wiki. answers.com/ Q/How_many_ people_did_ Stalin_kill
>
> The amxfiles is another case in point, at one time was the place to
> be on internet, occasional few wars but nothing that could not be
> solved. No longer there, buy owner Jim Stone sold his AMX and moved
> on. The site is still up, but most of the stuff on it consists of
> abandoned files with dead AMCers on it. Created in 1996, died in
> early 2000's finally domain name expired in 2009 so gone too. Go
> google it and leachers will direct you to their site, nothing to do
> with AMC just create traffic.
>
> The original amc forum also had problems with someone threatening
> to sue the forum owner, so he shut it down, there is file somewhere
> on my site about that debacle. The scab, 'new' theamcfoolum. com
> site no one goes to, (one guy on Car Craft was gloating he signed up
> 140 times at college computers, I guess that is like voting for your
> favorite MLB All Star when they want you to plug ballot box!) and
> Fran's site changed names but still comes up amcforum so confusing
> to say least.
>
> I could go on here, as it is hot outside, so decided to try to
> answer a few emails. The last I heard it was shipped back to MA
> where it originated from You know, the original intention was to
> have it done and ready by 2001. Sometimes we are rambler slow,
> sometimes rambler slow without rims and tires. But a number of
> people donated things, and along the way, many places did great job
> on it, as the donated car ended up being a turd to begin with (rough
> car with frame/unibody damage if I recall) so tons more work needed
> to bring it back to life. I think the original intention (gee was it
> really a decade ago?) was to have different chapters take the
> vehicle, and do work to it, might be big job, or small job, as long
> as people contributed.
>
> The problem with that was it bacame a 'rolling pick a part' and all
> sorts of rare parts suddenly disappeared. The new in box mufflers,
> nice tail light lenses and housings I donated never made it to
> different city for instance. I did later sell them a set of new ram
> air trim, but donated $200-$300 more new parts about 4-5 years ago,
> no telling if that stuff was used or ended up on someone elses' car
> or ebay, craigslist though. Frank Swygert of AIM magazine tried to
> co-ordinate efforts but people got pissed off at him thinking he was
> either taking over the project or profiting from it, whihc I believe
> was neither. The backlash from that was no one wanted to get
> involved with it anymore! It ended up in Kenosha, but no clubs would
> take it, sort of 'who needs the bullshit' associated with it if they
> had it too long, or something came up missing, or didn't tweet
> updates daily like damned corpse flower here!
>
> I think what bothered me personally about this project was two
> things, one was the lashing Frank took years ago with it from bunch
> of idiots posting anonymously on the forum of the week site. The
> bigger thing was that with all these chapters out there......few got
> involved. The car only been to handful of states
>
> http://www.mattsold cars.com/ charityamx/ map.html
>
> I would have though that people would have jumped at the chance to
> help on this project. At one point I believe the car almost got
> 'evicted' from a shop as was taking up valuable space the shop could
> have used to actually make money with customers. If not for making
> stops in Houston at the aMO nationals in 2001, then onto San Antonio
> where the Alamo AMC club did great job getting it running.
> Will always remember the enthusiasm and smiles when it was driven
> off the trailer at the 2002 AMC SW Regional. Update! Can add Alamo
> AMC to 'stuff that didn't work' as the whole club cratered several
> years ago. Now AJ is trying to resurrect it, and I wish him success.
> Update! Hell, the big, successful AMC SW Regional meet cratered
> after I quit sponsoring it and severed ties with local aMC chapter
> after the national here! Google 'amc assholes' and well, even if you
> in Nepal or Tasmania or hiding in rabbit hole in Fallauja, Iraq can
> read about it. Too bad on all fronts.
>
> I don't think that this old 'charity amx' falls into the 'amc stuff
> that didn't work' class though. It's still out there, but has long
> since fallen off anyone's radar for a variety of reasons. Maybe when
> finished in Y3K great, great grandkids will say 'I remember that in
> Y2K' perhaps. Like seeing those heads in jars of Nixon and
> celebrities on Futurama.
>
> Anyways, if anyone still reading, here is link
>
> http://www.mattsold cars.com/ charityamx/ index.html
>
>
> Eddie Stakes
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@ planethoustonamx .com
> www.planethoustonamx.com
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The car is currently in my garage and has slowly (very slowly) been worked on. it is much worse than I thought when it came back due to the many missing parts. There is still a lot of the new donated parts here, so yes, Eddie, the parts are here and will go on the car. the whole suspension was taken to a shop last week, and a space was made to begin work. i have a promise from a great shop to paint it when the bodywork is done. Still need some other stuff and should be able to do an update next week.

FYI-I donated this car with a ton of parts-many NOS, choice used, etc, including quarter panels. There was no hidden or unknown damage, just damage some people didn't know about when it came to them. It was not as rough as most think, but then again I am talking Boston area standards. the car was donated in my daughter's name because at that time she had a very rare immune system problem (one of only 6) and many other issues. Fortunately, we were told when she reached puberty it may resolve itself to a point where she didn't need the every three week transfusion. Unfortunately, she was one of the unlucky people who contacted swine flu this winter and was hospitalized for awhile, complete with partial paralysis of her extremities. She has her movement back, but it now appears her immune problem never completely resolved itself, and we have had a number of doctor's appointments the last few months.

As an added note, we never realized how "famous" she was at Children's Hospital. An intern told us her immunologist knew her complete file without even reviewing it, and talks about her all the time. When he came in he told us Erin is known as the "Rosetta Stone of Immune Systems" because people with immune issues often have different symptoms, but Erin had every one of them (seizures, temperature fluctuations-to include 105+, etc). Because of the research of her, she has helped many people lead a more comfortable life and have led many researchers to open otherwise unknown areas to research. way to go, Erin!

Hopefully Rick and i can get some work done next week. I will be posting more "needed" info soon.